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Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails January 16, 2009

I got a request here from a major American print publication. “Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal.” Now, we’re caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your “hope.” My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, “Well, I hope he succeeds. We’ve got to give him a chance.” Why? They didn’t give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I’m not talking about search-and-destroy, but I’ve been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don’t want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I’d be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he’s talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don’t want this to work. So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.” (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here’s the point. Everybody thinks it’s outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, “Oh, you can’t do that.” Why not? Why is it any different, what’s new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what’s gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don’t care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: “Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.” Somebody’s gotta say it.

I finally got away for the weekend, which meant no political blog reading for a few days. Which was nice. Of course, I come back tonight to catch up and whaddaya know, the righty blogs are still whining about Rush Limbaugh.

*sigh*

I just cannot understand what these people do not understand about us being in the middle of a fucking political WAR with the Left/mass media/Democrats/Obama Administration. And how they think that attacking – whether aggressively like the Left or passively like some on the Right are doing – conservative leaders like Rush Limbaugh is supposed to be actually helping the cause.

People such as Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are three of only a very small few conservatives who (1) are actually conservative (2) are influential (3) are very knowledgeable about history and conservative values and principles and, most importantly (4) can actually articulate and explain these conservative values and principles to the masses. Not only that, but they each have been doing it for at least a decade. They each have converted probably (at least) hundreds of thousands of Americans to conservatism over the course of the past 2 decades through their books and radio shows – doing what they have been doing for the past 20 years.

Yet, now, all of a sudden, some bloggers think that these people are hurting the cause of conservatism or the cause of the Republican Party to regain influence in the federal government.

What a crock of batshit craziness.

It’s also especially humorous coming from a bunch of people who blog anonymously, taking pot shots at people who have put their names and reputations on the line for the values and principles in which they believe. For decades. For decades, the American people understood their lessons and their explanations and understood their humor. Apparently now, though, the American people are too stupid and ignorant and their delicate sensibilities no longer can handle the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Mark Levin.

Again I say, what a crock of batshit craziness.

Just look at the past 8 years of hate, vitriol, smears, lies and attacks done by the Left, Democrats and the mass media at anyone who was Republican, conservative, Christian, critical of Islam, supported the military, supported our war efforts, etc. The American public seemed to have no problem with “I hate Republicans and everything they stand for”. They seemed to have no problem with calling our top General a liar. They seemed to have no problem with calling our President a liar and a terrorist. They seemed to have no problem with comparing our US military members to Nazis and torturers and terrorists one day and then considering them dumbasses who had no other choice in life but to join the military the next day.

So spare me this utter pansy-ass bullshit that the American people’s sensibilities are too delicate for the likes of Rush, Levin and Coulter.

The problem is the American people are willingly ignorant lazy sheep who no longer take the time to read and research and educate themselves to facts and reason and logic and simply get their news from the propaganda hacks in the mass media.

The solution to that is not to give up, throw our leaders under the bus and see how we can fight this war based on the rules of the enemy. Because as commentor “adjoran” explains below, the enemy is going to smear, lie, misrepresent, attack and destroy *anyone* giving a conservative message no matter who it is and no matter how it is said. The solution is not to keep changing and changing and changing how we say things or what we propose to appease our enemies. No, the solution is to keep on doing what we are doing, loudly and proudly expressing our values and principles and when we are attacked and smeared, we don’t apologize and wring our hands, but go on the attack and attack those who are smearing us. We don’t attack our own and say they are making us look bad. They are not making us look bad! Those who are smearing and attacking and trying to destroy us are making us look bad. And by giving into their premise of lies and smears and attacks, we have conceded the battlefield to them and have essentially lost.

I getting seriously tired of this passive-aggressive shit from Righty blogs. These putzes are quick to accept the premise of the Left and throw our own under the bus. They actually think that they are doing the conservative movement good by throwing leaders like Rush and Coulter and Levin under the bus, when all they are doing is just disheartening people such as me. Because all it tells me is that a bunch of people with a lot of influence are not only unwilling to fight unabashedly and unapologetically for conservatism, but they also are completely willing to nonchalantly throw the only influential leaders of the movement to the wayside.

Just brilliant.

And now, spot-on comments by Commentor “adjoran”:

Acey, your points are well made, BUT you are occupying a very narrow ledge here. You also criticized Limbaugh over the dreaded “tone” of his remarks. It seems the main differences between you and Frum are that you don’t need the traffic, and instead of joining the self-appointed elite of self-important assholes, you and Allah have formed a coalition of self-appointed tut-tutters to lecture both sides – but on substance you both have thrown in with the elites, so you are hardly impartial umpires.

On “tone,” any criticism of Rush is merely fodder for the Left. The man’s been on the air for over 20 years. His style is aggressive and mocking and no holds barred within the broadest bounds of taste and FCC regulations. Always has been. But NOW suddenly some on the right are “concerned” about his “tone”?

If you want Rush to be politically correct, you have a better chance of Obama actually keeping a campaign promise. Give it up. The Left is going to demonize him, Palin, Jindal, Sanford, Steele, or WHOEVER is speaking for our side at any given time. That’s been their strategy since Reagan (which makes all their false admiration for him now all the more galling) and it never changed for a minute. Only Clinton opted out in order to appear moderate to win reelection. As soon as he won, his hit men like Carville, Begala, et al were back out with the long knives for any critic. Business as usual.

We concede nothing. If young people don’t like Rush, it isn’t because they listened to him and rejected his ideas. It’s because they read him demonized in the media and by the left, and then even by supposedly conservatives like Ace and Allah (however milder the “tone” of your critiques).

Conservatives are through trying to make nice with the damned socialists. If we’re too rough-edged for you, throw in with the Libertarians and their wacko 0.5% of the population. They are completely nuts, but they have such good “tone” ya know . . .

Posted by: Adjoran at March 08, 2009 03:22 PM

Another great comment by Dan Collins. Succinct and spot-on:

Rush said what he said. He explained it. Obama’s White House hit team went after him in an orchestratedly mendoucheous gambit. It’s in our best interests to make them pay. And pay. And pay. For being the lying, dirty cocksuckers that they are.

Anything about Limbaugh representing conservatism or the Republican Party is quite apart from the issue of stopping these fuckers.

Posted by: Dan Collins at March 08, 2009 03:28 PM

Exactly. But instead of going after a bunch of lying, dirty cocksuckers and exposing THEM to the American public as the bunch of lying, dirty cocksuckers that they are, some righty bloggers think we should allow them to get away with that shit and throw our own leaders under the bus.

Fucking brilliant.

Wow, one would have thought that I read this comment before writing my post, since it echoes my sentiments above in an outstanding manner. I should have just bypassed my post and just posted this comment, because it says what I am feeling so much better than I did above:

You risk the wrath because in sympathizing with Frum’s critique, you accept the terms of the debate set by the left wing. And until you stop accepting those terms of debate, you will deserve all the wrath you get, because you legitimize the left wing’s terms while undercutting the ability of the right wing to fight back. I’m hardly the first to put forward these thoughts in you comment, just one of many, and yet you still can’t seem to get it, just as you accuse Frum of being unable to get it.

And as for the premise itself, how much did saying controversial things hurt the left in the last two election cycles, who have had various spokesman (including Howard Dean) say one over-the-top outrageous thing after another? It didn’t hurt them electorally at all, and here’s why – nobody on the left (even some of their more moderate “voices of reason”) ever accepted that their cohorts were out of bounds.

When you so willingly concede to the left that what Rush said was out of bounds, you’ve surrendered without a fight.

May the wrath continue.

Posted by: thirteen28 at March 08, 2009 03:48 PM

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Keep finding great comments, the more I read through the thread. I have to go back and find the others that I liked, but I couldn’t pass on posting this one:

That’s your construct dude. Take a fucking pill. I never argued that. Although I agree the Obama should fail. And for all its inelegance, “I hope he fails” sums up concisely conservative opposition to socialism. And maybe its shortsightedly cathartic, but after 8 years of Bush bashing some fairly minor turnabout is fair play.

The reason people are so passionate about this, I think, is because they’re tired of conservative intellectuals and Republican “leaders” telling them they have to junk their beliefs, lay down, and roll over for some myth of bi-partisanship or moderation. Since 94, really, conservatives have had Republicans promising them the moon, low taxes, strong defense, small government, accountability, etc. And we’re lucky to get 2 off the list. People get tired, but unlike Democrat constituents, who keep letting themselves be screwed by the people who allegedly speak for them, conservatives have said “Enough”.

Then there’s always that dump the so-con rubes undercurrent of these intellectuals that really lights peoples’ fires.

Rush isn’t the leader of the Republican party. He’s a conservative sophist. He can afford to be more brazen and controversial. He just has to get ratings. On the other hand Republicans have been such milquetoasts lately that they’re afraid of their own shadow. The have no confidence in the principles they’re supposed to be espousing, and because of that they’re not capable of coming up with ideas they could use to counter the Messiah’s agenda.

And what I’ve been saying is that Republicans do need to get out and fight. They had plenty of winnable elections last cycle, and they’ve got 2 big chances this year. But they’ve got to show that they’re actually in the ideological game to win.

So far they haven’t shown that.

I can understand you’re afraid that because Rush has high negatives among certain demos, that the Republicans can get negatively tarred with them. But frankly the Repubs have been fucking themselves so hard lately that whatever Limbaugh does isn’t gonna do anything to people’s perspective of them. If there was a moral and philosophical alternative to the Republicans I’d be all over it. Heck I’m not even a Republican, I’m a registered conservative in NY.

Right now Republicans are trying to figure out where they want to go. Do they go dem light, or do they go Reagan. Now some argue that the era of Reagan has passed. In terms of policies, that’s true. But in terms of principles, not really. This is all just a massive circle-jerk until a leader rises up. But that doesn’t have to happen until 2010.

Posted by: Iblis at March 08, 2009 04:49 PM

Exactly:

Because the statement was part of an excellent argument that needs to be heard and repeated.

I argue this way all the time, and admit it, you yourself use this style of argument on occasion. I’ve posted a link to the transcript from his show and I assume you heard his speech at CPAC. It was good stuff, understandable, defendable and strong. To let the media Dowdify, our arguments without protest, is to surrender.

Posted by: toby928 at March 08, 2009 04:54 PM

Exactly. Pick.a.fucking.side:

Here is the Frum v Levin dispute in a nutshell. And it’s the same as the Steele v Rush, Parker V Palin and a lot of similar disputes.

On the Frum side you have those who think the GOP’s problem is that it’s been just too darn ideologically right-wing. They think the way back to power is to “me too” large chunks of the Democrats agenda, on the grounds that the left has already won the debate on most subjects. They think conservatism is a millstone around the GOP’s neck and needs to be downplayed or discarded.

On the Levin side you have those who think the GOP fell from grace with the public because it spent the last several years trying be Ted Kennedy’s bestest buddy and doing exactly what the Frum’s of the world want. These people say “lets try conservatism for a change”.

Both of these things cannot be true, and it’s impossible to split the difference between them. So everybody has to pick a side and argue for it.

Posted by: flenser at March 08, 2009 05:01 PM

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