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The NAZIs Were Statists, Just Like All Leftists (Fascists, Communists, Socialists, ‘Progressives’)

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BronxZionist:

From the National Socialist Platform:

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:
11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

What part of “Socialist” and “Workers'” in “National Socialist German Workers’ Party” are not clear?

Bohemond:

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” —Adolf Hitler

The Nazis were Statists, just like all Leftists. Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Progressivism: they all represent the same foul objective: the enserfment of man to the Almighty State. Leftism is all about coercion and represents the antithesis of liberty.

PatrickII:

What can I say regarding fascism and it being left-wing that BronxZionist hasn’t laid bare? The myth that fascism was right-wing was laid bare BEFORE WWII EVEN ENDED in the book “The Road to Serfdom,” by F.A. Hayek. He wrote the book because, as an Austrian who watched the rise of the Nazis, who fled to the US and then to the UK, and as an economist surrounded by Brits who thought socialism was an “answer” or “cure” to fascism, Hayek thought it important to show that the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was, indeed, yet another spawn of Marx. Not only did BZ quote directly from the Nazi platform, but you can find early speeches of various Nazi leaders (pamphlets, to be more accurate) that clearly illustrate that the Nazis thought socialism would work, just not the *internationalism* of the Soviet Marxists. The battles between the Soviets an the Nazis were battles between siblings over the remote control.

Your “it’s a semantic trick” argument is worthless. You see, as someone who believes in absolute Truths, I can take the position that there are actual definitions/meanings in the world and that everything is NOT just a matter of “perspective.” Thus, I have no problem saying that someone who “believes” in the free market is someone who understands the free market. Doing whatever you want with your money is NOT the definition of someone who “believes” in the free market. Otherwise, we could say the same thing about the left-wing enviro-nut who shot up the Discovery Channel offices. Though he openly declared he hated things like the free market in his rambling declarations, some months before he had caused a stir by throwing his money around as he crossed a street in front of the DC’s offices. Hey, he was making a statement with his money!

Clearly, this has nothing to do with the free market, just like making this movie would have nothing to do with the free market and everything to do with their egos.

Media centric culture? Critique? HA!! They’re the ultimate propagandists who use *entertainment* in an attempt to influence the weak-minded and intellectually vapid. And the simple story behind the “Matrix” only makes sense if you understand what THEIR views are. After all, we could say it’s the rebels against left-wing propaganda (since the left-wing controls the media and the educational system) and a libertarian fight against the oppressive control of a bloated government. Or we could say that it is a little more than a homosexual masturbatory fantasy picture starring (of course) Keaneu Reeves and a butched-out “love interest” where the homosexual ideal is a “god” fights against everyone who won’t recognize his sexiness. Or, whatever number of mindless, deconstructionist b.s. exercises you want to engage in. That isn’t the point.

When we understand what the *creators* of that entertaining but overly serious movie believe (ESPECIALLY given the bloated, pseudo-philosophical jabber of the sequels), it becomes easier to come up with views of the movies that are actually likely and not just mental masturbation (deconstructionist blather).

The hipsters? You’re just using circular semantics blah, blah, blah . . . Again, you’re assuming absolutes (that there is some standard that individuals can be held to in determining whether or not their criticisms of a subculture are legitimate) that just begs the question – why are *those* standards the ones we should use? How ’bout a little common sense? How ’bout this: self-involved is self-involved, and it happens in every generation and in every subculture, some more than others. When a subculture defines *itself* through its own sense of self-importance, then I think there is more than enough reason to laugh at it.

And, sometimes, it doesn’t take a rocket-scientist to figure out a subculture is just plain stupid, even if it does produce some cool stuff here and there.

the sinner,

Patrick

Also, these commenters ask good questions:

Bohemond:

Seriously: what is it with the Left and the impulse to violence? Why do they find it pleasurable to imagine those they disagree with being silenced brutally and permanently? Or for that matter, trying it in real life, as Kenneth Gladney and others have learned to their cost?

jimmythetulip:

And what’s with liberals and all their murder fantasies lately? Machete, the 10:10 “No Pressure” video, and now this. They have all the political power right now, yet they’re still so angry that we’re not all marching in lockstep with them that they’re making movie after movie in which they get to murder anyone who disagrees with them.

Guess what liberals, if you have the White House and both houses of Congress, and things still aren’t working out for you, then you’ve got no one to blame but yourselves.

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October 4, 2010 , 3:50PM - Posted by | Communism, Democrats, Fascism, Hitler, Liberalism, Socialism

1 Comment

  1. Yes. They are far more alike than different. The differences are academic.

    I have more quotes for you to add.

    Fascism-Keynesianism-Socialsim
    http://traditionalliberalism.blogspot.com/2010/09/fascism-keynesianism-socialism.html

    Hitler was named “Man of the Year” in 1938 by Time Magazine. They later noted Hitler’s anti-capitalistic economic policies.
    “Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.” (Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)

    Comment by Classical Liberal | October 19, 2010 , 9:01AM


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