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Still Baffled by the Reluctance to Call the Virus by its Name: SARS-CoV-2

I left this comment at this post at Ace of Spades HQ: The Morning Report 03/25/20

508 Am I in the minority in that, while I don’t mind the “Chinese Virus” moniker, I don’t prefer it? China is a big place. It would be like calling something the “America Virus” – imprecise. I prefer “Wuhan virus” for this reason, but it’s a pedantic point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 08:57 AM

I’m still baffled why the common naming convention is not to just call it what the WHO has officially called it:

SARS-CoV-2

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome – Corona Virus – 2

Calling it “the coronavirus” is incorrect, because it’s not *the* coronavirus, it’s *a strain of* coronavirus.

Calling it “COVID-19” is incorrect, because that is the name of the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2.

It truly is amazing how pretty much no one is using the actual name of the virus, from media to hospitals to everyone else.

I bet most of the world thinks the virus is COVID-19, when that, in fact, is the disease.

Chinese influence sounds about right…

534 I think it is Chinese influence. There are two things China owns, completely:

1) China
2) SARS

Calling the virus by its “right name” of “SARS-CoV-2” is too close to calling it the “China virus” or “Wuhan virus.” It has all the same problems.

I really think China influence is driving most of the sudden lurch into “Covid and nothing but Covid.”

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 25, 2020 09:37 AM

Probably right, but that means either

1 — Everyone going by COVID-19 is bought by the Chinese, including healthcare places and hospitals and such whom you would think would want to report accurate information to people

or…

2 — Everyone is ignorant of the facts and just going by the “common nomenclature” being used by the media, which is bought by the Chinese.

Likely #2, but that’s even scarier. Just shows how much influence the media still has, no matter what anyone says that “people have tuned them out” and “people don’t trust the media”.

March 25, 2020 , 2:19PM Posted by | China, COVID-19, Deep State, Democrats, Media Bias | Comments Off on Still Baffled by the Reluctance to Call the Virus by its Name: SARS-CoV-2

A Virus by Any Other Name Would Smell as Sour?

Simply astounding how so many people cannot get the name of the virus correct. I left this in the comments section of this post at Ace of Spades HQ: The Morning Report – 3/24/20

172 Listening to the radio this morning, it’s pretty amazing how everyone pretty much misnames this virus.

Some hospital commercial called it the “COVID-19 virus”. COVID-19 is the name of the disease caused by the virus. It’s in the acronym.

COrona VIrus Disease – ’19

SARS-CoV-2 is the actual name of this strain of coronavirus.

But, in this age of PC, we can’t call the virus SARS-CoV-2, because that would remind people of SARS-CoV from the early 2000s, which also originated in China.

March 24, 2020 , 10:07AM Posted by | China, COVID-19, Deep State, Media Bias | Comments Off on A Virus by Any Other Name Would Smell as Sour?

It Was Going to Take Something Big to Wake Americans Up to the Fact that China is Our Enemy

I left this comment in the comments section at this post at Ace of Spades HQ: Quarantine Cafe

160 141 I hope, when all this dies down, we can *really* put the hurt on China. Bigly. These backward-ass commie lung fuckers keep churning out pandemic viruses every few years, accidentally or otherwise.

Maybe this is the reason behind what Trump is doing with going along with crashing the economy. Maybe this is the “resetting” of things. China has gotten away with this shit for long enough and this was the only way to wake people up and go with him on putting the hurt on China.

Considering that when he ordered the travel ban from China, everyone called it “racist”, it was going to take something this big to wake people up to China being our enemy.

March 23, 2020 , 10:03PM Posted by | China, COVID-19, Deep State, President Donald Trump | Comments Off on It Was Going to Take Something Big to Wake Americans Up to the Fact that China is Our Enemy

Why are People Deliberately NOT Calling the China Originated Virus by its Actual Name?

I left this comment at this post at Ace of Spades HQ: The Morning Report 3/20/20

334 So am I the only one who finds it odd that everyone refers to this as just “the coronavirus”?

This isn’t “THE coronavirus”, it’s *a* type of coronavirus.

https://wb.md/2WqVPlM

We have had outbreaks of types of coronaviruses in the past:

SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) in 2003
MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) in 2014

This is actually another form of SARS:

“In early 2020, after a December 2019 outbreak in China, the World Health Organization (WHO) identified a new type, 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), which can be fatal. The organization named the virus severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and named the disease it causes COVID-19.

So why isn’t the common naming convention to call this SARS-CoV-2? Is calling it by its actual name too scary?

This isn’t a criticism of here. This is happening all over. I have seen no one refer to this as SARS-CoV-2. Everywhere it is either “the coronavirus” or “COVID-2”.

A theory:

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While I am not certain, I have a guess and nothing more. SARS was China’s shame. If we cast back to 2002, SARS demonstrated that:

– China was a hotbed for new diseases to jump from animals to men, courtesy of their food and hygiene non-standards
– China was unprepared to deal with an outbreak
– China was dishonest and allowed the outbreak to spread without disclosure
– China endangered at least herself and her neighbors, with the possibility of endangering the world, due the incompetence, corruption and duplicity of her actions.

Any of this sound familiar? “SARS” is married to China, and they can’t do anything about it. In 2002, they didn’t have the power they do now.

Now, they own the WHO. I imagine the order that came down was, “don’t call this SARS – too much baggage.”

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2020 09:28 AM

Makes sense…

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Makes sense. Though, knowing that now, it would be great if President Trump’s response to the scoldy witch who was upset about “Kung Flu” was to say:

Yeah, you’re right, we really should be going by the WHO name of SARS-CoV-2. Thank you for the reminder.

March 20, 2020 , 3:29PM Posted by | China, COVID-19, Deep State, Democrats, Media Bias | Comments Off on Why are People Deliberately NOT Calling the China Originated Virus by its Actual Name?

What Determines When the Government Gives the ‘all clear’ and Everything Goes Back to Normal?

I posed that question in the comments section of this post at Ace of Spades HQ: Is It Time to #CancelChina?

171 So serious question… what determines when the government gives the ‘all clear’ and everything goes back to normal?

I mean, the last I checked, there are a total of 150 deaths in the USA due to COVID-19. H1N1 had USA deaths spread out over a year time period from April ’09 to April ’10 of 14,000.

Is there some magic number we’re looking for? If 14,000 deaths were acceptable for H1N1 and anywhere from 20,000 to 60,000 deaths over a 12-month time period are acceptable for seasonal flu, what exactly is the metric we’re looking at that says “okay, the threat is gone, we can go back to regular life”?

That led to the following back and forth in the comments section:

222 Maybe when infection rate drops to a minimum.

Posted by: runner at March 18, 2020 08:08 PM

So what is the current infection rate?

Please excuse my ignorance, I know how to do math. But when I compare to 61 million infected for H1N1 and we have but 220,000 worldwide infected for COVID-19… I’m not really understanding where the “acceptable” point is.

61 million infected in USA over 12 month period comes out to 164,000 people per day. And we did not shut anything down.

We are barely over that worldwide total, not per day.

Sorry, I’m sure I sound stupid here, but I’m not sure what we’re supposed to be looking at to estimate when we’re going to get the okay to go back to normal life.

More discussion:

341 My fear is so many politicians are getting off on acting like dictators that they might keep this going. We need to keep the shut downs in place longer just to be sure we don’t get another surge in cases

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2020 08:24 PM

What does a “surge in cases” even mean?

Like I said, all I have to go on is the CDC numbers from things like H1N1 and seasonal flu. For those viruses, the average daily cases was 160,000+.

We only have 220,000 cases total for this COVID-19.

Yet, we went from normal to shut down the country within about a week. Over 220,000 total worldwide cases.

If our system could handle an average of 160,000 cases per day of H1N1 and seasonal flu, why in the world are we so freaked out about a few thousand cases of COVID-19?

More:

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Because the downside risk (temporary economic dislocation) is less than the upside risk of a massive pandemic that crashes our entire health care system.

The stock market can come back.

People can get new jobs.

Death is permanent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 18, 2020 08:38 PM

I am still skeptical.

369 And does it seem odd to anyone else that the media is just going along with the narrative from President Trump and his doctors on the seriousness of this virus and the need to shut down the country? Wouldn’t you expect them to do the opposite? Like accuse him of being Hitler-esque and creating fear and hysteria to take more control over the country in an election year?

Yet, they are taking the complete opposite tact. Believing everything they say about the seriousness of this and instead just criticizing the way he’s handling the “crisis”.

I dunno. Just none of this makes any sense.

Yeah, this does not add up:

408 500 people died from COVID-19 in Italy yesterday. This isn’t a flu.

Posted by: Ace’s liver at March 18, 2020 08:39 PM

How do we know? How many people in Italy typically die of seasonal flu per year? How many died of H1N1?

Didn’t 2,000 people die in France one summer because of an unusually high temperature summer?

We can’t look at the numbers in a vacuum. Just like Sharyl Atkinson’s research showing that pretty much all the 100+ deaths in the USA have been to the elderly and those with health conditions.

Recall H1N1 where a national emergency was not declared then until 4 months after WHO declared it a pandemic.

There were 22 million cases in the USA between April and Oct of 2009. 22 million. In 6 months. And we didn’t shut down.

I am just baffled by what number someone saw that said we needed to shut down the country a few days after the WHO declared a pandemic.

This does not add up.

“Lethal common cold”? Hmmm…

416 How do we know? How many people in Italy typically die of seasonal flu per year? How many died of H1N1?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 18, 2020 08:48 PM


It is not a strain of influenza.

This is known. If it was it would be right there in the name.

It is closer to a “cold” which means it can mutate more rapidly. You know how long we’ve been trying to cure the common cold?

So we are not dealing with a ‘flu strain, but rather a *lethal common cold*.

Which means all the confident parallels don’t work because it’s a different disease with a lot of unknown unknowns.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 18, 2020 08:51 PM

Whitmer is definitely in over her head…

439 And all I see here is that the media is attacking Trump on not doing enough, not taking this seriously enough, my governor Whitmer accusing Trump of not acting soon enough, etc.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 18, 2020 08:55 PM


Whitmer’s in over her head. Every move she made was forced on her.

She closed the schools only after the universities went to online classes AND parents were pulling their kids out in such numbers that they would have to shut down anyway.

She shut down bars because other states were doing it and they had confirmed cases transmitted through a Burger King and movie theater.

If she’d been pro-active she’d have done it all at once, so she blames Trump because that’s why she got elected – on an anti-Trump mid-term wave.

This too shall pass, though. We haven’t even gone a week yet. The panic buying will stop, people will adjust and things will calm down.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 18, 2020 09:00 PM

Finally someone who agrees with me…

443 If our system could handle an average of 160,000 cases per day of H1N1 and seasonal flu, why in the world are we so freaked out about a few thousand cases of COVID-19?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton, a law abiding citizen at March 18, 2020 08:36 PM

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I assume that’s a rhetorical question. This has been about getting rid of Trump by the Progda Enemedia from Day One.

This is more than a manufactured crisis — this is manufactured hysterical insanity. But I think you already know that …

Posted by: ShainS — Virus Denier at March 18, 2020 09:02 PM

March 18, 2020 , 11:43PM Posted by | China, COVID-19, Democrats | Comments Off on What Determines When the Government Gives the ‘all clear’ and Everything Goes Back to Normal?