So I was discussing this on Facebook tonight…
Way to go, TCU! I’m a Big Ten guy, but was rooting for TCU to win, because I hate the BS BCS & Bowl systems. There is no “national champ” without a playoff. And for the “Big Conferences” to be so condescendingly arrogant & asinine to reject a playoff, screw them. Until they setup a playoff, they have no “national champ”. Hopefully seeing a “little school” beat a “big school” will get us closer to ending this BS BCS.
I then got some feedback and went on to discuss a possible setup for a playoff system using the current Bowl system:
Thank you. But to add to that, along with a playoff system, you’ve got to have home field advantage, which I’ve been calling for for years. It truly is bs that all the northern colleges, to play in big bowl games, have to go down to the south to play southern schools. You know I think that weather is a huge factor, and attribute NFL teams like the Bears, Packers, Patriots, Giants, Jets, and Bills playoff success partially to teams from the south playing them up north in the snow and cold during winter. On top of that, all of the southern cities get huge boosts of monetary influx from coverage and people coming in and spending money. Why can the basketball and hockey programs figure out a huge playoff month with tons of tv viewership but the football program can’t?
I was thinking about this while watching some of the games. I need to go look at how many Bowl games they play.
If we had 32 teams in a tournament, that would require 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 31 Bowl games. If we had 64 teams in a tournament, that would require 32 + 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 63 Bowl games.
I just checked and I believe they currently have a setup for 35 Bowl games. So things are already setup for 32-team tournament.
Now, I don’t know how many “power” conferences there are, but they could fill up the tournament the same way the NCAA Basketball does it: automatic bids by winning your conference and then at-large bids. If they wanted to, they could use the BSC standings to determine at-large bids.
The tournament would perfectly setup for 5 weekends. This year it would have been DEC 4, DEC 11, DEC 18, DEC 25 and JAN 1 for the Championship game.
I guess the only problem there is that teams would end up playing 5 extra games in addition to their regular season and Conference Championship games. Right now I think teams play 12 games + Conference Championship = 13. So 13 + 5 = 18 games total. But, that wouldn’t be much different from the NFL, which currently has 16 + 4 max (for any wild card that makes it to Super Bowl) = 20 games total.
I’m not too concerned about home field advantage, especially since the NCAA would never go for that setup, since that would completely change the Bowl System and $$$ going to those venues.
While it would be ideal to do that, I say just keep the current bowls how they are, but set them up for a tournament, instead of these matchups that no one cares about.
I’m gonna go see what my tournament would be based on Conference Champs and BCS standings…
Yeah, I was going to say, 32 teams would be pretty much ideal, because most of those games would happen during the winter break, maybe with a week off for finals and recovery, so it ends on Jan 8-ish, which is still during the break. And again, I am concerned about home field advantage. If you’re going to do it tourney style, you can’t have poor teams with practically home field vs. good teams, throws out the whole point of being a better team during the regular season. Basketball can kind of get away with that being as they can play multiple games at one venue in a single day, really infeasible with football. Even then, their “neutral sites” rotate all the time, so MSU may end up playing at home every so often, instead of always being hosted at the Rose Bowl. I’m not so sure that the ncaa wouldn’t go for that. If they’re going to scrap the bowls and $$$ to those revenues anyway with a tourney, I see no reason to not go through all logical steps and make it a true tourney instead of a mock tourney. Do what’s right for the sport, reward good teams by pitting them against worse teams, and reward them with home field. I mean it’s not like those stadiums are suddenly not fit for a football game because of the weather.
I then came up with the following Playoff system. I used the Conference Champions to determine the top Seeds, Seeded them based on their BCS ranking, then took the next 21 teams based on their BCS ranking. If they did not have a BCS ranking, then I used the AP rankings. In the future, in order to account for this, we’ll simply have BCS rankings for 32 teams.
Okay, here is what I came up with based on Conference Champions, BCS standings and using AP standings for the final at-large bids I needed to fill 32 teams:
ACC — Va Tech (6)
Big 12 — Oklahoma (5)
Big East — UConn (9)
Big 10 — Ohio State (4)
Conference USA — UCF (8)
MAC — Miami (OH) (10)
Mountain West — TCU (3)
PAC 10 — Oregon (2)
SEC — Auburn (1)
Sun Belt — FIU (11)
WAC — Nevada (7)
(4) Ohio State
(6) VA Tech
(10) Miami (OH)
(15) Mich State
(16) Boise State
(19) OK State
(21) Texas A&M
(24) South Carolina
(25) Miss State
(26) West VA
(27) Florida State
(29) Northern Illinois
(1) Auburn vs (32) Navy
(2) Oregon vs (31) Tulsa
(3) TCU vs (30) Maryland
(4) Ohio State vs (29) Northern Illinois
(5) Oklahoma vs (28) Hawaii
(6) VA Tech vs (27) Florida State
(7) Nevada vs (26) West VA
(8) UCF vs (25) Miss State
(9) UConn vs (24) South Carolina
(10) Miami (OH) vs (23) Utah
(11) FIU vs (22) Nebraska
(12) Stanford vs (21) Texas A&M
(13) Wisconsin vs (20) Alabama
(14) Arkansas vs (19) OK State
(15) Michigan ST vs (18) Missouri
(16) Boise State vs (17) LSU
(1) Auburn vs (16) Boise ST
(2) Oregon vs (15) Michigan ST
(3) TCU vs (14) Arkansas
(4) Ohio ST vs (13) Wisconsin
(5) Oklahoma vs (12) Stanford
(6) VA Tech vs (11) FIU
(7) Nevada vs (10) Miami (OH)
(8) UCF vs (9) UConn
(1) Auburn vs (8) UCF
(2) Oregon vs (7) Nevada
(3) TCU vs (6) VA Tech
(4) Ohio ST vs (5) Oklahoma
(1) Auburn vs (4) Ohio ST
(2) Oregon vs (3) TCU
(1) Auburn vs (2) Oregon
So LSU has won the NCAA Football National Championship and are now 2007 National Champions. Congratulations to them.
However, despite the fact that LSU has been crowned National Champion, the debate across the nation is anything but settled about who is the best team of the 2007 collegiate football season. Many people have stated that the best teams did not play in the National Championship game. Arguments can be made for USC or Georgia being better teams than either Ohio State or LSU or both. And USC and Georgia certainly made their cases for that argument in their whoopings of their opponents in their bowl games.
Because of that, the debate rages on over the current system in college football for crowning a National Champion, the Bowl Championship Series system. There has been a lot of talk about a playoff system in order to have this finally settled on the field by the players, instead of left up to a bunch of pollers’ opinions and computer program polls. I completely agree with those people who want a playoff and have felt this polling system was ridiculous, well before they even thought about the BCS system. I have never understood why college football is the only sport which doesn’t settle its National Champion on the field, but leaves it up to pollsters to determine.
However, on the way home from work this evening, a couple of sports talk radio personalities on the local station here were in favor of keeping the system as it is, not even really in favor of a “Plus One” playoff system (in which the top 4 ranked teams at the end of the season would be put into a playoff system). They seemed to think that the way college football does things is just fantastic.
Well, how about we apply the college football system to the NFL shall we? That would mean that instead of the playoff system we have, we would have the top ranked teams automatically go to the Championship Game, in this case the Super Bowl. So that means that this year, the Super Bowl would already be set as Patriots-Cowboys. While it is arguable that those two teams are the best in the NFL, an argument can also be made that the Colts and Jaguars and maybe even the Chargers are better than the Cowboys. Or maybe Packers fans would argue that the Packers are better than the Cowboys, even though they have one more loss.
The beauty of the playoff system is that it allows all the debate and trash talking leading up to the games and then allows the players to settle the debates on the field.
Also, if the NFL were setup as college football, the Colts would not have been the Super Bowl Champs right now. The Super Bowl would have been the Chargers vs the Bears. And the Steelers would not have had a chance to win the Super Bowl prior to that either, since, at the end of the 2005-2006 season, the Colts and Seahawks were the top two teams who would have been in the Super Bowl.
So I don’t understand why anyone would want to keep the current system in college. My suggestion is for an 8-team playoff. Right now they have the BCS bowls split among 4 days anyway, with the National Championship game a week after New Year’s Day, on Jan 7th. So why not have the 8 teams in 4 bowls a week before Jan 1st, then have the Final 4 on Jan 1st and then the National Championship Game on Jan 7th?
Just think, these were the Top 8 teams in the BCS this year:
Ohio State, LSU, Virgnia Tech, Oklahoma, Georgia, Missouri, USC, Kansas
This would have given us:
1 Ohio State vs 8 Kansas
2 LSU vs 7 USC
3 Virginia Tech vs 6 Missouri
4 Oklahoma vs 5 Georgia
I would definitely look forward to those games and that playoff!
Unfortunately, this is still not perfect as some great teams are still left out, such as 9 West Virginia and 12 Florida.
But, still, this is MUCH better than what we had this year. I would much rather have that playoff and only hear complaints from West Virginia and Florida, than to have arguably the two best teams in the nation at the end of the season, USC and Georgia, left out in the cold.
Hey NCAA, let’s have a playoff, shall we?