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I Found Saddam’s WMD Bunkers – Iraq’s WMD are Now in the Hands of Terrorists

I have never understood why the Bush Administration has refused since 2003 to combat the lies of the Left and the Democrats and the media that we have not found WMD in Iraq. I have read from numerous sources of everything the Coalition forces have found so far. Not to mention the Saddam Dossier and the Oil for Food program documents which showed Saddam was working to get sanctions lifted through bribery, so he could start up his WMD programs bull-bore without any sanctions.

So reading this article from Melanie Phillips is frustrating and baffling at the same time. Frustrating, because it is yet another source where someone has proven that Saddam either had WMD or had the resources setup to start up his programs were he to go unchallenged. And baffling, because, if what Dave Gaubatz, an agent in the US Air Force’s Office of Special Investigations who searched Iraqi WMD sites after the fall of Saddam, says is correct, then the Bush Administration is covering up the fact that they were absolutely correct about Saddam’s caches of WMD, because they don’t want to take criticism for not preventing the caches of WMD to fall into terrorists’ hands, as the war was intended to do.

Still, this is an interesting read. Of course, because of the Bush Administration’s utter incompetence in defending itself against the “BUSH LIED!” mantra of the Left, the Democrats and the MSM, those people who believe the “BUSH LIED” lie will just discount this, while those of us who know the facts are left with just another set of facts that people in power refuse to show the American public to set the record straight.

I have to say that this really angers me. And I really don’t understand why the Bush Adminstration continues to lie about not finding WMD. I certainly hope they have a good reason for it, because allowing the “BUSH LIED!” lie to take hold with a good portion of the country has completely divided us as a nation and completely eroded support for the war effort.

Found via Scott Johnson at Power Line: Meet Dave Gaubatz

It’s a fair bet that you have never heard of a guy called Dave Gaubatz. It’s also a fair bet that you think the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has found absolutely nothing, nada, zilch; and that therefore there never were any WMD programmes in Saddam’s Iraq to justify the war ostensibly waged to protect the world from Saddam’s use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

Dave Gaubatz, however, says that you could not be more wrong. Saddam’s WMD did exist. He should know, because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don’t know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, ‘lost’ his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam’s WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war.

You may be tempted to dismiss this as yet another dodgy claim from a warmongering lackey of the world Zionist neocon conspiracy giving credence to yet another crank pushing US propaganda. If so, perhaps you might pause before throwing this article at the cat. Mr Gaubatz is not some marginal figure. He’s pretty well as near to the horse’s mouth as you can get.

Having served for 12 years as an agent in the US Air Force’s Office of Special Investigations, Mr Gaubatz, a trained Arabic speaker, was hand-picked for postings in 2003, first in Saudi Arabia and then in Nasariyah in Iraq. His mission was to locate suspect WMD sites, discover threats against US forces in the area and find Saddam loyalists, and then send such intelligence to the Iraq Survey Group and other agencies.

Between March and July 2003, he says, he was taken to four sites in southern Iraq — two within Nasariyah, one 20 miles south and one near Basra — which, he was told by numerous Iraqi sources, contained biological and chemical weapons, material for a nuclear programme and UN-proscribed missiles. He was, he says, in no doubt whatever that this was true.

This was, in the first place, because of the massive size of these sites and the extreme lengths to which the Iraqis had gone to conceal them. Three of them were bunkers buried 20 to 30 feet beneath the Euphrates. They had been constructed through building dams which were removed after the huge subterranean vaults had been excavated so that these were concealed beneath the river bed. The bunker walls were made of reinforced concrete five feet thick.

‘There was no doubt, with so much effort having gone into hiding these constructions, that something very important was buried there’, says Mr Gaubatz. By speaking to a wide range of Iraqis, some of whom risked their lives by talking to him and whose accounts were provided in ignorance of each other, he built up a picture of the nuclear, chemical and biological materials they said were buried underground.

‘They explained in detail why WMDs were in these areas and asked the US to remove them,’ says Mr Gaubatz. ‘Much of this material had been buried in the concrete bunkers and in the sewage pipe system. There were also missile imprints in the area and signs of chemical activity — gas masks, decontamination kits, atropine needles. The Iraqis and my team had no doubt at all that WMDs were hidden there.’

There was yet another significant piece of circumstantial corroboration. The medical records of Mr Gaubatz and his team showed that at these sites they had been exposed to high levels of radiation.

Read it all: “I found Saddam’s WMD Bunkers”

Also, Allahpundit at HotAir notes that FrontPageMag covered this story last year, as did the NYTimes. The fact that we have not told Syria to hand over the WMD or face the consequences, especially when they are contributing to the terrorism in the world and in Iraq and Israel and Lebanon through Hezb’Allah and allowing terrorists to cross their borders into Iraq, is maddening. We allow the world to call us liars and evil and warmongers and idiots, when we have intel showing that the WMD are in Syria. Why the HELL aren’t we acting on it.

As I said before, the Bush Administration better have a DAMN good reason for lying like this.

Also see this NY Sun article from Jan 2006: Iraq’s WMD Secreted to Syria, Sada Says

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, Saddam’s Secrets,” released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

“There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,” Mr. Sada said. “I am confident they were taken over.”

Mr. Sada’s comments come just more than a month after Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam “transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.”

Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration’s decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, “It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

Said Mr. Bush, “We did not find those weapons.”

Again, this pisses me off to no end, because the Left and the Democrats and the media use these quotes to completely discredit the facts that come out about WMD being found.

And ONCE AGAIN, the Bush Administration better have a DAMN GOOD REASON for lying like that.

UPDATE I: Interesting comment at HotAir by Perchant:

The Democrats stalled our invasion of Iraq. Their stalling strategy had its own catch phrase called “why the rush to war?”. We now have the answer to that question.

My conspiracy theory on that one was that some Democrats (using runners like McDermott, Bonior, Lindauer) worked with the Russians, the French and other oil for food partners to remove Saddam’s WMD from Iraq so that Saddam could accept a last minute inspection. The clock ran out on them and “shock and awe” commenced. They were hollering “no wmds” before we even entered Baghdad and there was no reason for them to be confident of that.

UPDATE II: Commenter stonemeister has another good point:

If the truth were known, it would become public that Iraq, with the help of Russia (which also supplied aircraft and trucks), shipped off WMDs, supplies, materials, and manufacturing equipment to Iraq and even some to Iran, shortly before the war started.

Letting this info out would burn bridges (as if they existed) between us and Russia, and would cause the middle east to go up like a tinderbox. Israel would feel threatened by Syria, and feel tempted to strike these stockpiles before they were attacked, and Iran would have the perfect excuse to attack Israel. If we “insulted” Russia with these facts, they would turn more against us (as if that were possible), and eliminate any chance they could take our side against the Islamists. Plus the fact that North Korea, Russia, France and Germany was selling supplies, materials, and equipment to Iraq and Syria, the whole thing would blow up.

Talk about a world war! That’s why Bush has been willing to take his lumps, to fight one battle at a time. I don’t think he was counting on one of the battles he’d fight was with the Dems and press of his own country!

And that is probably it right there. I don’t think anyone could have predicted how Bush Derangement Syndrome would infect the Left, the Democrats and the MSM so much so that they would commit treason. The fact is, all of us underestimated the utter delusion and hatred that infects the leftists, based on their losing their political power in 2000.

UPDATE III: Via Commentor TheBigOldDog:

This is an important companion article in Melanie’s Diary:

The questions that need to be asked about those WMD

It’s long but important. For example:

At the 2006 Summit, a tape recording of Saddam discussing his nuclear weapons technology was presented to the public. The tape clearly shows Saddam discussing a progress report on a laser enrichment system for uranium, one of the more advanced methods to make a nuclear bomb. This nuclear technology tape had sat untranslated in a Kuwaiti warehouse along with thousands of shelf feet of captured Intelligence files. Mr. Negroponte had decided to give them a low priority until the 2006 Summit revealed their importance.

I think the reason the Admin has downplayed the WMD story is because the worst has indeed happened. As she says, through American incompetence, the worst case scenario has now been realised — that Saddam’s WMD are in the hands of terrorist regimes waging war against the west.

UPDATE IV: This is interesting. Seems as though there is a China connection. Very troubling. Via commentor TheBigOldDog:

They were in Libya and of the nuclear variety, funded by the Saudis, with Pak plans, NK materiel, and staffed by Pak and Iraqi scientists.

And the documents were written in CHINEESE!

Again, from Melanie:

When Col. Quaddafi turned over his blueprints for a nuclear warhead, they were written in Chinese. Even more alarming, the IAEA discovered that tens of thousands of advanced P-2 uranium centrifuges had been manufactured in Malaysia, but had gone missing. The Summit now believes that China had arranged this shipment for Iraq.

UPDATE V: Also see this NY Sun article: Ex-Officer Spurned on WMD Claim

UPDATE VI: Absolutely excellent post by commentor angryamerican. And s/he makes a great point. Saddam’s excuse for the shipments to Syria before the 2003 invasion was “humanitarian aid” to Syria. Saddam did not have enough aid for his own country due to using the Oil-for-Food money to build palaces and fund his WMD programs, yet we’re supposed to believe he could give aid to Syria? Riiiiiiiight. Of course the illogical idiots suffering from BDS on the Left take Saddam’s claims as “gospel”.

In 2002 and 2003 it was reported that the NSA satellites had taken satellite photos of Iraqi Convoys leaving suspected chemical facilities and going into 3 sites in Syria.

Saddam Hussein’s #2 Iraqi Air Force General, General Sada, has testified that he oversaw the transport of Chemical Weapons into Syria, but they were disguised as “humanitarian” aid in 2002 and 2003 before the invasion:

These 20 planeloads are what General Sada said contained the Chemical Weapons in this story from Relief Web in June 2002: Iraq sends 20 planeloads of aid to Syrian victims of dam collapse

Saddam Hussein said those 20 planeloads contained “humanitarian aid”, but he was under U.N. Sanctions?!

He said he didn’t have enough humanitarian supplies, which is what he used for the excuse to let his own people starve??!!
But he had enough to send 20 planeloads of “humanitarian aid” to Syria??!!


And this was further validated by Nizar Nayuf (Nayyouf-Nayyuf).

“A Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, 2004, to Dutch newspaper “De Telegraaf,” that he knows the three sites where Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are kept.”

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites

In 2004 10 al-Qaeda terrorists were captured in Jordan with more than 20 tons of Chemical Weapons. The reported targets were the Jordanian prime minister’s office and the headquarters of Jordanian intelligence, and the U.S. Embassy.

It has been reported that up to 100,000 could have been killed in the Terrorist Bombing.

al-Qaeda got those Chemical Weapons out of Syria:

Jordan ‘was chemical bomb target’

CNN: Jordan says major al Qaeda plot disrupted

Jordan: Major al Qaeda chemical plot foiled

In 2003 Iraqi Nuclear Scientist, Dr Mahdi Obeidi, revealed he was hiding the key Nuclear Research and Nuclear Centrifuges needed to restart Saddam’s Nuclear Weapons Program under Saddam’s order.

Saddam reported these nuclear documents, and key nuclear centrifuge parts as “Destroyed” in 1995!

The experts argued that Saddam Hussein had ASPIRATIONS of reconstituting his Nuclear Weapons Program.

These Nuclear Documents and key Nuclear Centrifuge parts were declared DESTROYED by Saddam. They were NOT.

CNN: Nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad back yard

April 21, 2007 , 4:36PM Posted by | Bush Admnistration, Bush Derangement Syndrome, China, CIA, CNN, David Gaubatz, Iraq, Media Bias, Nuclear Weapons, Russia, Saddam Dossier, Syria, Terrorism, UN Oil-for-Food, War Effort in Iraq, WMDs | Comments Off on I Found Saddam’s WMD Bunkers – Iraq’s WMD are Now in the Hands of Terrorists

It is Time to Lay the Hammer Down on the Democrats’ Shadow Presidency

I posted about the Democrats’ lies concerning their trip to Syria here: Democrats are LYING About Madame Pelosi’s Trip to Syria

I originally found this article in the comments section of a post at LGF and now see that Matt Burden at Blackfive posted it as well. It is an excellent read and I am glad that it is getting prominent attention. It is high time the Administration fought back against the treasonous behavior of the Democrats. Their conducting of their own foreign policy is illegal and unconstitutional.

You will also notice that the Democrats are more concerned with embarrassing and defeating the Bush Administration rather than embarrassing and defeating America’s enemies. To the Democrats, the only enemies are in the Bush Administration.

Via Steve Shippert at Congressman Proudly Claims Syria Trip ‘Led To Embarrassment’

Enough. It is time to lay the hammer down and put an end to what has been referred to even by the Washington Post as the ‘shadow presidency’. Regardless of what carefully chosen words have been used thus far by participants in explaining their mission in visiting with Syrian dictator Bashar Assad, Congressman Tom Lantos makes their end-game abundantly clear in an interview he gave to Assad’s regime-controlled Syrian Arab News Agency. But, with teeth fully clenched, this is not a game, nor is it an election campaign tour. Brace yourself for the text in full.

Washington, (SANA)- Democratic Member of the US. House of Representatives and Chairman of the United States House Committee on Foreign Affaires Tom Lantos has underlined that Syria vehemently believes in the dialogue in its relations with the US and in dealing with the issues. In an interview on Tuesday, Lantos described the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi’s recent visit to Damascus as important to open dialogue channels with it as saying: “The visit expressed in a marvelous way interests of the US, that led to embarrassment of the current US administration which has closed doors for dialogue with Syria.”

Any questions? But Lantos continues…

“President Bashar al-Assad strongly encourages the continuation of the Syrian-American dialogue,” Lantos added.

Well, you bet Assad “strongly encourages the continuation of the Syrian-American (read: American Congressional) dialogue.” Lantos, Pelosi and all others from both sides of the aisle are a gold mine for the state sponsor of terrorism. But wait, there’s more…

Lantos expressed desire to visit Damascus once more and that he will not comply with the policy of the US President George W. Bush regarding it. [All emphasis added.]

Again, any questions?

Go read it all.

April 14, 2007 , 2:50AM Posted by | American History, Democrats, Iraq, Liberalism, Logan Act, Nancy Pelosi, Syria, Terrorism, Tom Lantos, Treason, War Effort in Iraq | Comments Off on It is Time to Lay the Hammer Down on the Democrats’ Shadow Presidency

Democrats are LYING About Madame Pelosi’s Trip to Syria

Someone is not telling the truth about what SotH Nancy Pelosi discussed with Syrian President Basher Assad. Originally, Democrat Tom Lantos, a member of the House committee on foreign affairs, as reported in the San Francisco Chronicle on April 2nd, 2007, stated the Democrats were going to Syria to conduct their own separate foreign policy from the Bush Administration (which, by the way, is illegal under the Logan Act):

“Lantos, referring to recent congressional votes dictating a timetable for the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq agreed that Democrats were pursuing an approach to counter the Bush administration. He said, ‘We have an alternative Democrat foreign policy. I view my job as beginning with restoring overseas credibility and respect for the United States.'”

However now SotH Nancy Pelosi is singing a different tune:

When we went to Syria, there was no division, no difference in the message that the president has been sending forth and the message that we delivered. Our message to President Assad was a very direct one, very consistent with the president’s message, very unified. We went — we left our differences at home. We spoke about where we were unified as a country.

Interesting. That’s not what Tom Lantos stated. He stated you went there to deliver the alternative Democrat foreign policy. Of course, you seem to agree with him seconds later when answering a question about Vice President Cheney’s remark on the Rush Limbaugh show stating that your actions in going to Syria was “bad behavior”:

The vice president — I think he accused me of bad behavior, sounding sort of father figure-ish and probably stay home. We don’t accept that — those instructions.But it was quite a remarkable thing. I think it’s an indication of the poverty of ideas, uh, of this administration to bring peace to the region.

Really? So the administration has a “poverty of ideas”, yet you went to Syria giving Mr. Assad a message which was “very consistent with the President’s message, very unified”? The same message which has a “poverty of ideas”?

SotH Pelosi, I demand to know the details and see a transcript of what you said and discussed with the enemy of the United States, an enemy which is helping to kill American soldiers in Iraq, an enemy which is under investigation for killing one of the political leaders of Lebanon and an enemy which supports the terrorist groups Hamas and Hezb’Allah.

SotH Pelosi should provide the exact details of her discussion with our enemy or be tried under the Logan Act for treason. Period.

Via Rush Limbaugh: Pelosi Rejects Bush Meeting, But Eager to Meet Ahmadinejad in Iran

BEGIN TRANSCRIPTRUSH: Here it is. It was Tuesday, April 3rd, ladies and gentlemen, and this is what I said on this program about Pelosi: “[A]nd if she had the guts, if she had the chance she’d go to Iran and meet with Ahmadinejad and do the same thing, and she may well do it before the 2008 election. I wouldn’t put it past her.” I told you people! I know these people like every square inch of my glorious, shrinking-quickly naked body. I saw this news last night, “Nancy Pelosi to Iran,” and I said, “I gotta remember,” and I only remembered it this morning.


Let’s go to the Pelosi and Dingy Harry sound bites. This is yesterday afternoon on Capitol Hill, a press conference, Dingy Harry speaking.

REID: The president is inviting us down to the White House with preconditions. That’s not the way things should operate — and he’s gotta listen to us, because we are speaking for the American people. He isn’t.

RUSH: And there you have it! They are “speaking for the American people,” and Bush isn’t. Bush has only been elected by the American people. Dingy Harry has not been, nor has Nancy Pelosi. But, see, this is all part of their gambit here to suggest that the November elections were about getting rid of Bush and getting rid of the war in Iraq and getting us out of the war on terror, and letting Democrats have free rein over what they want to do. Ben Feller, an AP writer, says: “When President Bush invited Democratic leaders for a sit-down on Iraq, it seemed to offer the opportunity for a breakthrough in their bitter differences over the war. For about five seconds. Then the White House spent the rest of Tuesday explaining what the meeting would not be. It is not a chance to compromise, the administration insists. Bush isn’t budging from what kind of war-spending bill he can accept.

“It is not a time for Bush to lecture lawmakers, the White House said, although he might reiterate why the Democrats’ proposals to set troop-withdrawal timelines are foolish and irresponsible. And whatever you do, don’t call it a negotiation.” That’s what the White House said. “Bush read the Republicans’ loss of Congress last year as a message that voters want both parties to work together. But his move on Tuesday was the latest sign that his tactics remain the same: We’ll cooperate just fine as long as you see it my way.” (laughing) It is amazing. Now, the White House may be playing it hardball this way and I hope they are, but the idea that the Democrats are not engaging in that kind of behavior on virtually everything in the House and in the Senate is literally laughable! But of course here we have a Drive-By Media story. This is not news analysis. This is an actual “story,” supposedly! Yeah, “Ben Feller covers the White House for the Associated Press.” So, anyway, Dingy Harry says they’re not going to go up there with any of these preconditions. It’s not the way things should operate. Pelosi rejected the invitation as well.

PELOSI: What the president invited us to do was come to his office so that we could accept, without any discussion, the bill that he wants. That’s not worthy of the concerns of the American people, and I join with Senator Reid in rejecting an invitation of that kind.

RUSH: All right, all good and well, but I’m still struck by the statements of Carl Levin this past Sunday on This Week with George Stephanopoulos. Well, we always fund the troops! No, we’re gonna fund the troops. No question about it. We always have. We always will! We will fund the troops. These guys are up there acting like there’s still a chance for their bill to pass. You talk about disunity or not being on the same page? It is clear here that Pelosi and Reid are not on the same page as Carl Levin. So, anyway, it’s more poker that is being played here, and ultimately the president is going to win this. Yesterday afternoon, same press conference. This is what Nancy Pelosi said about her trip to Syria.

PELOSI: When we went to Syria, there was no division, no difference in the message that the president has been sending forth and the message that we delivered. Our message to President Assad was a very direct one, very consistent with the president’s message, very unified. We went — we left our differences at home. We spoke about where we were unified as a country.

RUSH: Really? Really! How in the world do you suggest that when you say that the Israelis are ready to talk peace despite what’s going on with Hezbollah and Hamas? How do you say that when the prime minister of Israel, Mr. Olmert, has to come out and deny what you’ve said? Now, Gerd Schroeder today at American Thinker has a good question: “Where are the transcripts of this meeting between Pelosi and Assad? Pelosi yesterday claims she said nothing to contradict the foreign policy of the president, but she offered no details of that. And I for one would like to hear for myself, especially after hearing a member of the House committee on foreign affairs, Tom Lantos, claim last week that they have a Democrat foreign policy that’s different from the president’s and they’re setting about now to establish that. How can both the speaker and the chairman both be telling the truth?“If the Democrats in Congress have the right to demand the transcripts of Vice President Cheney’s Energy Working Group,” and if Henry Waxman can ask for e-mails from the RNC and all over the place, and Condoleezza Rice and so forth, “then surely we have a moral right to know what was said between the Speaker and President Assad, and judge for ourselves where the truth lies. It is interesting to note that there is no audio of the meeting that we see looped endlessly on TV. But it is clear,” Gerd Schroeder writes here, “through the body language of President Assad that he seems to be clearly lecturing Pelosi] about something, while she appears to be dimly smiling and nodding. What is the discussion about? Will we ever know?” But there aren’t any transcripts, and she’s offering no details. We’re just supposed to accept it at face value that she was over there on a message of unity, taking the president’s message to Bashar Assad, despite the fact that Tom Lantos said, “No, that’s not what we’re doing! We were over there advancing our own Democrat foreign policy.”


RUSH: Back to the audio sound bites. Nancy Pelosi, “Speaker of State,” and Tom Lantos, “Deputy Speaker of State,” are heading out all over the world here trying to establish their own foreign policy. Here is Nancy Pelosi responding to Dick Cheney on this program, calling her behavior in Syria “bad behavior.” An unidentified reporter said, “What about the discussion and the vice president’s criticism of you going to Syria?”

PELOSI: The vice president — I think he accused me of bad behavior, sounding sort of father figure-ish and probably stay home. We don’t accept that — those instructions.

LANTOS: Maybe in zee kitchen!

PELOSI: (Laughing.) But it was quite a remarkable thing. I think it’s an indication of the poverty of ideas, uh, of this administration to bring peace to the region.

RUSH: Wait a second! Wait just a second. (That was Tom Lantos, by the way, that chimed in there with “Maybe in the kitchen.”) What do you mean “poverty of ideas”? Go back to cut 12. There’s a “poverty of ideas of this administration to bring peace to the region,” but we just heard her say this…

PELOSI: When we went to Syria, there was no division, no difference in the message that the president has been sending forth and the message that we delivered. Our message to President Assad was a very direct one, very consistent with the president’s message, very unified. We went — we left our differences at home. We spoke about where we were unified as a country.

RUSH: Well, I’m confused, then. How can this be? If she’s going to say that she thinks Cheney’s comment about her behavior being bad was “an indication of the poverty of ideas of this administration to bring peace to the region,” she just got through saying that she left our differences at home. “We spoke about where we were unified as a country.” Poverty of ideas? So she was out expressing the poverty of ideas that she says don’t exist or is the fact of the case in this administration. Let’s not forget, this San Francisco Chronicle story is from April the 2nd. It was Monday. “Lantos, referring to recent congressional votes dictating a timetable for the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq agreed that Democrats were pursuing an approach to counter the Bush administration. He said, ‘We have an alternative Democrat foreign policy. I view my job as beginning with restoring overseas credibility and respect for the United States.'” Well, hell’s bells, somebody’s lying here! Somebody is lying a couple of times, because here’s Pelosi saying they went over there and they were unified and they left their differences aside and very consistent with the president’s message, and then Lantos says, “Oh, no, no! We’re setting up our own Democrat foreign policy. It’s an alternative Democrat foreign policy. That’s what they’re doing over there.” Then Pelosi says that Cheney’s criticism of her is “an indication of the poverty of ideas in this administration.” So somebody lies. There are two lies in this, which is not surprising. Now, here’s the bit about going to Iran. An unidentified reporter: “Do you see the possibility of maybe taking a trip to Iran?” Well, now, I wonder who put that idea in this reporter’s questioned mind?

LANTOS: I would be ready to get on a plane tomorrow morning, because however objectionable and, um…unfair and inaccurate many of Ahmadinejad’s statements are, it is important we have a dialogue with him.

RUSH: God!

LANTOS: So speaking for myself, I’m ready to go, and think the speaker, I think she might be.

RUSH: This is frightening. This is the entire culture of appeasement, knowing full-well — This is a Holocaust survivor, by the way, Tom Lantos — the anti-Semitism of Ahmadinajad. You know, all Ahmadinejad would have to do is go lie to these people. They’re going over there and they’re hoping to hear, “No, no, no, no! I didn’t say that! I didn’t mean that. We want peace with the West,” and then they’ll come back and say, “We want peace and they want peace,” and say, “We can have peace! Elect Democrats.” They will believe any lie told to them by a dictator and even after the dictator proves he’s been lying they will still trust the first lie, and say, “We worked with this man. We understand this guy! We reached him.” I know these people, folks, better than anybody out there does — and they are dangerous, and I’m not talking about Ahmadinejad, because we know what he is. The Democrats are dangerous in their naïveté, and this is nothing new. They have been this way for countless decades. Pelosi finally added this.

PELOSI: A person of Mr. Lantos’ stature and personal experience, is saying that I as a Holocaust survivor and even recognizing the outrageous statements of the president of Iran, I think it’s important to have dialogue. I think that speaks volumes about the importance of dialogue.

RUSH: Cliché after cliché after cliché. “Well, let’s have dialogue.” Are there any recent news stories, folks, where “dialogue” is solving the problem? (Laughing.) Is there one? Can you give me an example of any recent success by dialogue? Is there something big in the news lately where dialogue’s helping? It’s important. It’s the importance of dialogue, that’s it! We gotta be talking, because the theory is if we’re talking, nobody can do anything. Nobody will take any action, if we’re talking. Except if you’re doing the talking and you’re being duped! (sigh) They’re being set up. I know, “Why don’t a significant number of Americans see this?” We’re working on it, folks. They won’t go to the White House. They won’t go to the White House and talk. They will not appear on the Fox News Channel. They will not appear on the Fox News Channel and talk. They won’t have “dialogue” with Fox reporters. They will not have “dialogue” with the president, but they can’t wait to go meet with a murderous thug, Islamofascist, state sponsor of terrorists and terrorism, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!

That’s your Democrats today — and, you know what? The vast majority of Democrats support them in this. They hate Bush, you gotta understand. Bush is the enemy! Bush is even being blamed now for the Imus flap. Yes! Our old buddy Jonathan Alter last night on MSNBC said it’s Bush’s problem! Bush has set the climate here! It’s Bush. Yeah, I kid you not. I’ve got the sound bite but I’m not going to play it because I’m tired of talking about that but I just wanted to pass it on. It’s Bush’s fault. They hate Bush. They hate Fox News. They hate all of us! They’ll be glad to go talk to Bashar Assad and they’ll talk to Ahmadinejad. They’ll talk to whoever. They will not appear on Fox and they will not go to the White House to speak to the president after he has sent them an invitation. Let me ask you this. If Ahmadinejad said, “Hey, Speaker of State Pelosi, come on over. Now, don’t expect me to change anything in my attitude. I’m not going to change my attitude about Israel. I’m not going to change my attitude about our nuke program, but I’d love to talk to you,” you think she’d should go? Hell, yes, and you know why? Because it would make good photo-ops. It would make great press, and of course the Drive-Bys swoon over these clichés and meaningless pap phrases like, “It’s good to keep dialogue open.”

Ah, that’s such wonderful diplospeak! So if Ahmadinejad issued the same invitation and told them at the same time, “We got the same preconditions. We’re not gonna alter what we believe here. You’re not going to come over here and tell us that we’re not going to have the same attitude about Israel, and you’re not gonna talk us out of our nuke program,” she’d still go, and Lantos would still go. I have a better place for Pelosi to go. The Speaker of State is threatening to go off to Iran on what she cleverly calls “a fact-finding trip,” but I’ve got a better idea for this woman. The most useful fact-finding trip that the Speaker of State could go on would be a fact-finding trip to the IRS, the Internal Revenue Service. Check out the facts over there. How much more tax revenue is flooding in thanks to the tax cuts that you want to change? In fact, they weren’t tax cuts at all. They are just rate reductions! Go over to the IRS! Since you will not go to my website to see the facts, go over to the IRS, Speaker of State Pelosi, and you ask ’em about the enhanced revenue that’s pouring in that nobody — quote, unquote, “nobody” — expected.” These were not tax cuts. These were tax rate reductions.


RUSH: I’m still sitting here blowing my mind over the contradictory, incoherent statements of Nancy Pelosi and Tom Lantos. I can’t let this go. Let’s review this again. Lantos says, “We are establishing an alternative, Democrat foreign policy. That’s why we went to Syria.” Pelosi says (paraphrased), “We stopped at the water’s edge. We did not take a different message. We presented a unity position to President Assad the same as the president’s.” Then when asked about the comment from Cheney that she engaged in “bad behavior,” she said, “Well, you know, that is just indication of the poverty of ideas this administration has when it comes to peace in the region.” Well, this is completely incoherent! A “poverty of ideas” that she said she agrees with and talked to Assad about while Lantos assured everybody the Democrats are doing their own “alternative foreign policy.” Now, here’s the question. If Nancy Pelosi is giving Bashar Assad the same message as the president, then why go at all? What’s the reason? Why do you have to go, if you’re just going to relay what the president has been saying?

But the hypocrisy and the confusion, ladies and gentlemen, are even deeper. They claim they have a constitutional right to influence foreign policy, and then they downplay whether they are, in fact, influencing foreign policy, except for Lantos, but Pelosi’s all over the board on this. “No, we took the president’s message. There’s a poverty of ideas about peace in the region here.” So the hypocrisy and the confusion and the incoherence, that’s something, but it’s even deeper because all the while they’re claiming they have a constitutional right to influence foreign policy, which they don’t. Now, what’s happening here, folks? Pelosi is a figure that many of us can look at and laugh at. She does appear to be buffoonish, but I’ll tell you this is devious and it is dangerous and it is typical of Democrats. They have done this before. They did it in the eighties. They did it in the Vietnam War. This is who they are, undermining the foreign policy of the United States when they are not constitutionally empowered to conduct affairs in this manner.

They went over there pure and simple… I’m going to tell you what this was. Pelosi and Lantos went over to Syria for one purpose, and that was to undermine United States foreign policy. That’s why they went, and that is what they did, and now they are responding to criticism by claiming they really went over there to celebrate all the religious holidays, to carry the president’s message and so forth. But she is lying about it, and Lantos let the cat out of the bag because he admitted that they were there establishing an alternative Democrat foreign policy, which means he admits that the Democrats are attempting to undermine established US foreign policy. Now, here’s what we need, folks. We need an investigation. We need a public hearing. I’m not a fool here. I know that there’s not one Republican who is going to call for this, but I don’t care. I’m just telling you this is what we need. We need an investigation, a public hearing, to determine exactly what these freelancing members of Congress did in the Middle East and what they said and to whom they said it.

We need some accountability here. We have it with state department officials when they go overseas. There is accountability. They have to go up to the Congress and testify as to what happened. Condoleezza Rice has to go up there periodically. The CIA director has to come up. Other administration officials have to go to Congress time and time again and report what’s going on and what they’re doing. It’s called “oversight.” They’re required in the state department to account for their missions. Does the Joe Wilson story ring any bells here? Now, when Pelosi and Lantos and the others in her traveling party conduct themselves in other-than-appropriate ways by undertaking diplomatic efforts like this, fact-finding or otherwise, whatever it is, we need to know what occurred. Where are the transcripts of her talk with Assad? Now, again, I’m under no illusions here. Democrats are not going to demand an inquiry and the media is not going to demand an inquiry, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t demand one, and it doesn’t mean that there shouldn’t be one.

I sit here and I read every day where Henry Waxman is firing off letters demanding e-mails from some other Republican or Republican agency, and I sit here and smoke starts coming out of both of my ears. It’s time for these people to be put under the gun. You know, Democrats are angry all the time. They’re outraged all the time, and I think (I’m getting more and more comfortable here psychoanalyzing these people) anger on the Democrat side has become a virtue. I think anger is one of the links that has all these Democrats tied together, from the blogs to the elected officials, to voters. Their anger and their outrage — which, remember, last year at this time, I’m suggesting it’s what was going to doom them, because most people do not want to put up with it. They don’t want to hear doom and gloom and anger and rage. It’s not infectious. It’s not inspiring. I don’t know if I was wrong about that yet or not. The jury’s still out on the American public’s reaction to it in toto, because I think the Republicans did more to defeat themselves than the Democrats did to win last November.

Nevertheless, the fact is this rage and this anger that they exhibit, has become virtuous. It’s almost become a mating call from one Democrat to another — and that’s how they send out the signal that they’re on the same team, and it’s about how they’re propagating issues and ideas and so forth. It’s anger and it’s rage, and it’s become virtuous, and of course Republicans are not angry. They never act mad about anything! The Democrats are angry 24/7. Pick a name. Pick a Democrat. They’re always mad. Even Dingy Harry is mad all the time! Tom Daschle was mad. He was “concerned,” all the time. Pelosi’s mad all the time. Ted Kennedy’s mad all the time. The blogs? They go beyond mad. They are insane! A lot of nighttime cable network commentators are insane. They’re not just mad. They’re enraged, insane. They have lost their minds — and as such they’re attracting like-minded sickos, but that rage propels them. Henry Waxman’s mad, and Henry Waxman continues to try to do anything he can to destroy — and that’s politics. The Republicans on the other hand have no such rage. I’m not suggesting they get enraged. I’m just drawing differences here, although I think there’s plenty of stuff where if I were a Republican on Capitol Hill, I would be livid what Waxman is doing.

I’d stand up and I’d go before cameras and microphones and I would say so, but (sigh) you’ve gotta have guts to do that, and I guess it’s in short supply. Regardless, it’s time to put these people under the gun, the Pelosis, the Lantoses and so forth, because they’re getting away with not only incoherence, they’re undermining US foreign policy, and they’re not being made to account for it. They’re offering no facts, no details of their meetings. They’re papering it over with all of this cliché mumbo jumbo, all this New Age jive that people swoon over. “Awwwe, they’re talking! They’re having dialogue,” but their statements about what they were doing and what they did are incoherent and using famous Democrat strategy, philosophy. Why, those statements are so incoherent, what they’re doing is so incoherent, it makes no sense. That requires an investigation, because the seriousness of the charge is, of course, more relevant than the nature of the evidence — and in this case we got plenty of nature of evidence. We got people lying. Lantos, Pelosi, somebody! You roll the dice, it’ll come up all of them are because they’re lib Democrats.

April 11, 2007 , 11:59PM Posted by | American History, Democrats, Hamas, Hezballah, Iran, Islam, Logan Act, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Muslims, Nancy Pelosi, Syria, Terrorism, Tom Lantos | 1 Comment